Started making cider today. Found the recipe in the NZ Gardener publication Homegrown 2 and Linda Hallinan the magazine editor has actually made it and says it’s drinkable, although she does say the more you drink, the better it tastes!. Like me she is firmly entrenched in the instant gratification generation and has not the patience to wait months for her booze. This cider is good to go in two weeks so I will let you know how it goes. Will post the recipe if its any good.